The biggest mistake you’ll ever make in the repossession process is the one you think isn’t as important as the others.
You’re seated at a long meeting table in an attorney’s office, the stenographer types away her cryptic record as your attorney is seated next to you. The plaintiff’s attorney asks the question. “What diligence did you perform when selecting the repossession agent involved in the incident that occurred?”
If you’ve never sat through a deposition, I assure you, you don’t want to. If you have, you already know you’d prefer not to again. It’s a little like verbal Jiu-Jitsu and a little like the Spanish inquisition. Even when you’re squeaky clean, it is uncomfortable and if you say the wrong thing, it will be used against your company and most likely, you.
With all of that said, why is it then so many collectors and lenders know little or nothing at all about the men and women they hire to repossess their collateral? Is it complacency? Ignorance or are they just a little lazy. Perhaps it just doesn’t fit into the high volume assignment business model that assured them they were held harmless in the event of agent misconduct.
Now, go back to the attorney’s office and answer the plaintiff’s attorneys question with any of those responses. Do you really think that’s going to protect your company? How about you? Does it protect you or insulate you from suddenly being dragged into the fray and named as an additional defendant? What makes you so sure your employer won’t throw you under the bus and act appalled at your incompetence in an act of contrition to play out for the judgment of a court or jury in hope of some leniency?
Don’t be so sure it won’t happen to you.
One very good self-test to perform on your self is something I refer to as “The New York Times Test.” It’s not original and has other names but basically, it is a simple question to ask yourself whenever you are about to make a decision that perhaps you’re not sure of or are concerned could show poorly on you or your company. Simply ask yourself, “If I were to do this, how would it look if things were exposed on the cover of The New York Times.
If your answer to this is that you would have a hard time explaining it, would be embarrassed by it or feel it could be ruinous to either yourself, your company, Credit Union or Bank, DON’T DO IT!
The reason I’m bringing this up, is that the level or levels of separation between you and the repossession associates you keep, is thin. Hold harmless agreements and facilitation companies won’t insulate you when the feces hits the rotary oscillator regardless of what they say, but I’ll get back to that later.
What they do reflects upon you and there is no escaping that truth. You may as well hop into the truck with them, because in the eye of public opinion you do it every time you assign a repossession. Whether it’s a single assignment or a batch of hundreds assigned through an interface it all comes out the same. Your reputation is sitting next to that Repo Man or Woman when they roll up to that address you assigned them to. What they do in the field reflects upon the reputation of both you and your employer.
Guard your reputation with your life. It takes years to build a good one and only seconds to destroy it. Without it, you are nothing, irrelevant or vilified.
“It’s 2am as Bubba crawls out of his house into his old sling boom tow truck. He’s got a list of new repossession assignments he just got last night while watching his favorite TV show “Operation Repo.” Your assignment is on that list.
As Bubba approaches your borrowers address he spots your car in the driveway. A light comes on inside the house as he’s backing into it with the tow truck. As Bubba gets out of the truck, the screen door swings open with an upset borrower.”
So what happens next?
You don’t know if you don’t know Bubba. Do you even know if Bubba has a legitimate storage lot or is he just stashing cars in his backyard? Has Bubba had any type of training besides what he’s seen on “unreality” TV? Does Bubba have a criminal record?
These are questions you should be prepared to answer in a deposition. Any appearance of unprofessionalism, incompetence or barbarism will be mirrored upon you. Is it worth the $50 to $100 you saved?
In all of the United States, there are only three states with any meaningful licensing requirements for repossessors. Florida, California and soon, Illinois.
While this is a good start, it doesn’t always mean that just because the agent is operating in these states that they are licensed. Unfortunately, the states of California and Florida do a pretty poor job of supervising these activities and see their roles as merely administrative. Getting an unlicensed repossessor or repo company shut down requires the administering agency to actually catch them red handing in a repossession. Good luck with that.
Even if you hire a licensed agency there is always the risk they have unlicensed agents. In Chino Hills, CA a licensed agency had an unlicensed agent repossession a car from a borrower and accidentally crushed her to death leaving the address. While there is really know way to know the agent down to the minutia, knowing the agency employees and owners themselves could help.
As far as the other 47 states go, the laws and regulation vary from no regulations at all to laws that are less rigorous than getting a fishing license. So how do you weed out the knuckle draggers from the professionals?
Associations
While a repossession agencies affiliation to a state or national association is no guarantee that nothing will go wrong in the field, it is a good measurement of their industry participation in training and affords additional bonding above the insurance binder you should already have on any agent before you send them any assignment. Please tell me you have their proof of insurance.
Whether it’s the AFA, ARA, TFA or NFA, they all offer additional bonding to their member companies and have bylaws which their members are required to abide by. The same holds true with the state associations.
While there is no unified trade association or federal licensing requirements, a repossession companies affiliation and participation in an association is a good measurement of their experience and professionalism. This is not to say that all repossession agencies operating outside of the realm of the associations are bad. There honestly are some great ones out there. Many of them just prefer to not pay the fees and since the explosion of the internet, the need for association agency guides, which was a major attractor to joining an association in years gone by, is just not as necessary for exposure.
With more than 60% of all repossession assignments in the United States originating from the top ten lenders, it’s no surprise that they would expect some discount for the volume of their assignments. Furthermore, the need for them to streamline their operations and efficiencies makes bulk assignments to facilitators, otherwise known as “forwarders” an ideal method of assigning mass amounts of assignments with minimal vendor management necessary on their end. This factor coupled with volume discounts saves some lenders millions of dollars a year.
But there is a darker side to this arrangement. Depending upon who the forwarder or facilitator is, it is the luck of he draw as to who the recovery agency assigned to their accounts is. As previously mentioned, the majority of states have little or no licensing, background or regulatory requirements and the agents chosen may have only been chosen because they agree to work for as low as $275 per repo. Unheard of prices now and lower than they were 20 years ago.
So how can they afford it? It’s pretty simple, many of these agents have no lots. Many of these agents have no insurance. Many of these agents are only repossessing part time and have little or no experience.
Is this the guy you want out there in a potentially dangerous situation with your member at 3am? I would imagine not unless you want to get brought into the legal fray of an event like the shooting of Alabama borrower 67 year old Jimmy Tanks in 2009 or the hit and run killing of William Jacobs in Georgia the same year. Both were repossession agents hired a forwarding company.
While the companies hiring these agents assure lenders of insulation for litigation, I assure you every lender was brought into the fray of civil legal proceedings and a heavy emotional and financial toll was paid.
I’m not slamming the entire forwarding and facilitating industry. It’s obvious they are trying to improve both their image and processes. Renovo Services recently completed a SAS 070 certification, which is the first of its kind in the industry to my knowledge and I assure you, it is neither cheap nor quick. There are however, many fly by night forwarding companies with some very shady people operating them that you should steer clear of.
Price should be the last of your concerns. You get what you pay for.
If you’ve managed to get this far in my rather long winded rambling, remember, accidents do happen in this industry and even to the best of companies. No matter how well you know the agency there are just too many variables in play with each and every account that you can take account for.
For some expert advice on agency selection and or any other training on the repossession process, I would strongly suggest you attend either in person or by webinar presentations by Eric North of North Law. For many years Eric has been the premier legal trainer and consultant for the Credit Union industry. His advice and teachings provide an excellent foundation for maintaining and developing sound collection and repossession policies, procedures and strategies. Also, unlike many other presenters, he won’t put you to sleep!
All you can do is your best to make sure that if you are sitting in a courtroom or deposition and the questions of diligence arises, that you can answer straight faced and head held high that you had checked the agency out thoroughly and objectively with earnest care for the serious and litigious nature of the often necessary duty of repossession.
Hindsight is 20/20. Caution removes the need for hindsight.
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In NYS, repo companies doing any sort of investigative work to locate debtors are supposed to be licensed private investigators. Al licensed detective agencies in NYS are required to fingerprint all of their employees, the state then runs those prints through the ncic and state criminal databases available only to law enforcement. Unfortunately, all repo companies here do investigative work and most do not have private investigators licenses. The licensing body here does nothing about this.
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Kevin,
Good article, hope this article gets viral.
A lot of very good points the clients and lenders should heed.
Jas Parker
Great article! I have been in the business since 1996 and have not joined any of the major associations but do stay up with training. I invite every one of my clients to come spend the day with us. It is very important that they know who they are doing business with. Thanks for the Article.
Ask Renovo about how many bubbas they fired before getting there SAS 070 certification
u are right ,but big boys only care about the almighty buck!!
It is all so true. Bottom line you get what you pay for and the liability is huge. Mu father taught me a long time ago…”don’t go with the cheapest or the most expensive, some where in the middle there is quality and service” The real recovery companies can not compete price wise with the “cowboys” out there. Why are the fees lower today than they were 20 years ago and expenses have grown 100%. Because the lender want cheap and in the long run they pay the price of legal actions and sub standard work….great article!!
kevin, great article what we need is for the clients to go out and inspect the company’s their using
Kevin ,
Very good article and it would be nice if some our lenders could see and hear this first hand . They really should meet some of these guy that work out here .
DL Miller
Kevin well thought out and articulated. You hit it right on the head. Hope “Bubba’s” truck is clean.
I’m certain the lenders are aware of the liability they have when choosing an agent, but like mentioned earlier, many continue to go to the forwarders choosing cheap over professionalism because it is a numbers game. If they can save 30+ million over 5 years and are hit with one lawsuit that they payout 10 million, they are ahead of the game. That is until someone figures out the punitive damages should be worth much more.
Great Article, However the only thing the major captive finance companies are looking for is CHEAP repossessions. They try to lay of the due diligence to the forwarder but cannot escape liability and end up being the one who pays the most on a repossession gone bad. All the forwarders are doing is adding their name to the list of people to be sued in the event of a repossession gone bad. How much due diligence these auction forwarders do is very questionable.
With shows like Operation Repo and Lizard Lick showing fights and maceing people it only attracts the true undesirable people to the industry. In the long run the client pays and all of the recovery industry pays because of all the lawsuits that are brought. The information is considered when an insurance company decides on how much they should charge the Recovery company for insurance. In the end it is the professionals who have to pay for the claims that have been made because of all the Bubbas
Kevin,
Great article.
The problem is that most of the lenders don’t know they have “Bubba” doing their work. All they see are the reports generated by the Forwarder.
Tom, You first met me way back when I was on your side of the table. There’s nothing self serving about advocating quality and compliance. It serves everyones best interest. You get what you pay for and reap what you sew.
Thanks Kevin! Great article. When I have these type of conversations with clients they can think I am being self serving. It is an encouragement to read this knowing it is coming from your side of the table.
Tom Angstead
Mark, they may read it, but it probably won’t affect their decision, we’ve been telling this story for countless years at the MANY seminars NFA has done. I don’t think there is a single lender out there that isn’t aware of the liability they have when choosing an agent, but many continue to go to the forwarders choosing cheap over professionalism.
Kevin,
Very good article, I hope some of the lenders using the “Bubba’s” will have the opportunity to read it.
Mark Summs